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A (sane) day in Jakarta Tweeters :D

• nanashambles: @kapkap - The Death of Music Industry in Indonesia? Ga slh? Bukannya malah lagi sangat2 berkembang banget, walopun ga jelas juntrungannya XD

• kapkap: @nanashambles - Konsumsi musiknya meningkat, tapi penjualan CD dan kaset jatuh drastis karena pembajakan :)

• pratama: @kapkap music industries need to realize that Live is where the money is. not CD/cassete sales. CD is just a part of promotion tool.

• nanashambles: @kapkap - Bukannya pernah di quote bahwa mereka dapet banyak sekali keuntungan dari penjualan hal2 semacam RBT gitu...

• kapkap: @pratama - Yep. True true. Currently live concert and merchandise are where the money at.

• kapkap: @nanashambles - Iyo. Masalahnya, kalo konsumen udah bosen sama RBT, that's where things going ugly.

• patvandiest: industri musik indonesia cenderung terlihat 'latah', lg tren RBT semua kluarin RBT, tren rock2 cengeng, semua band2 baru bgaya rock2 cengeng

• patvandiest: @kapkap yes concerts and merchs are lucrative, but most of the major label in here haven't implemented some kind of 360 deal with the band

• aulia: @kapkap did you ask @barijoe about RBT? Heh, that fad saved his ass :D

• patvandiest: ... they still stuck with RBT, oh puhleasse, RBT hype will fade away sooner or later..

• kapkap: @patvandiest - Iyo. Mereka bikinnya "Manajemen Artis". Hmmh. Bargaining position si artis jadi lemah.

• nanashambles: @kapkap: Maybe they'll find another new way of promoting their songs. Gw juga bingung, asal mulanya RBT tuh dari mana juga?

• patvandiest: also I felt sorry for the mainstream music taste, I mean c'mon? bands like Radja, ST12,and (god forbid) Kangen Band? noo, save us from them!

• kapkap: @nanashambles - Kalo dari artisnya sendiri sih masih bisa survive (going indie), untuk sektor distribusi dan label, itu yang agak sulit :(

• kapkap: @patvandiest - Setuju. Itu jadi ga jelas gitu. Reflecting the majority of Indonesians eh?

• aulia: @kapkap err, that's where iTunes and other online music stores come in. Bypass labels, prints, and distros completely to sell direct.

• kapkap: @aulia - Iyo. Di negara lain, music store udah ilang pamor. Di Indo, tinggal ngitung hari deh... :|

• thomasarie: @patvandiest and their ads on TV. Oh my goat! May be, they will say, "get our song for your RBT by blah blah blah" in their concerts :P

• patvandiest: @aulia but online music selling imo are not so very bright these days, our culture & internet penetration don't help much for it to succeed

• pratama: @aulia problem with iTunes model is that CC popularity is still low and the availability of stable net connection is still rare...

• aulia: @kapkap music store? oh you mean brick and mortar outlets? as in physical

• kapkap: @pratama - Orang masih demen RBT sih ya. SMS "mailing list"? Apa tuh ya?

• kapkap: @aulia - Yep, the brick-and-mortar ones.

• pratama: @kapkap itu loh, yang "ketik "bla" spasi "bla" dan kirim ke ####" kindda deal...

• kapkap: @pratama - ... Astaga. Reg Sepasi Primbon kae gitu ada yang ikutan gituh? Masya Allah..

• patvandiest: @thomasarie yes, probably one day, after each song they played in a live performance they will tell the RBT code for that song XDD

• nanashambles: @kapkap: I don't mind listening to RBT when I call people, but I can't be bothered to put RBT on my number

• pratama: personally I prefer buying CD*out of habit* and still download torrent of them... But then again, most of the music I like is not avail here

• kapkap: @nanashambles - Same here. I don't want to put RBT on my number.

• aulia: @patvandiest @pratama Agree. Culturally Indonesian's aren't attuned to that. lack of internet access? I kind of disagree to a point.

• kapkap: @nanashambles - Ah, jadi kepikiran... Could I ask you a question? :D

• kapkap: @nanashambles - Misalnya nih lu punya duit dan lu lagi ada MP3 yang lu lagi cari. One day you found the MP3 at online music store.

• kapkap: @nanashambles - Satu lagu 5000 IDR. Mending mana, beli saat itu juga atau bela-belain cari di Internet demi MP3 yang gratisannya?

• pratama: @aulia I say stable connection... not just mere connection... speedy aja gak stable buat download big file of musics...

• patvandiest: @kapkap gue waktu itu beli satu album The Milo @ Rp 5000 each song di Digital Beat store (karena di internet gak nemu mp3) :P

• nanashambles: @kapkap: beli saat itu juga. Dengan harapan kualitasnya terjamin ya... from my experience, nyari mp3 gratisan itu susah, kecuali torrent

• kapkap: @patvandiest - Ah interesting :D Jadi langsung beli daripada lama-lama ngubrek-ngubrek Internet ya? :D *langsung catet*

• nanashambles: @kapkap - dan bahkan torrent pun ga jamin Qta bisa dapetin lagu2 lama =(

• kapkap: @nanashambles - Hmm, oke oke :D Interesting :D *catet lagi*

• aulia: @kapkap gue juga mending beli. Taggingnya jelas, ada cover image, and the quality is 128Kbps minimum

• kapkap: @aulia - I see. Jadi beli secara legal itu bukan karena 'moralitas', tapi juga karena jelas asalnya yah...

• pratama: talking bout piracy, how bout anime? there's no official way of getting alot of the dubbed/subtitled anime in Indonesia...

• kapkap: @pratama - I kinda refer to @nanashambles's tweet before tho. Piracy ada karena unavailability.

• nanashambles: @pratama: Yes, that too. I pirated most of my anime n TV series collection... =P